Saturday 30 August 2014

Should we take the risk and vote Yes?

Two debates, lots of heat, sadly very little light and less than three weeks to go until the most important vote in my lifetime.

I wrote back in June of the three reasons why I'll vote No and since then I've often debated the issues with friends. In the last week, I've noticed a trend of more of these friends coming out for Yes. They have thought about it and decided it's worth the risk. Worth the risk to create a better Scotland, free from Westminster. Hope, it seems is creating a momentum.

I admit to being naturally drawn to the Union, but I'm not a Unionist by nature or voting history. My reasons for voting No remain unchanged and the main one of the currency remains unanswered.

When I have debated this, I'm told I need to be more positive and that we'll work it out as other countries have. Indeed this seemed to be Alex Salmond's response in the second debate. It's a good way of avoiding the question and the hard reality that needs an answer. As someone who is more normally accused of being too optimistic and positive I find it strange to be told that in this case I need to be more positive. The best I can make of it is that the Yes campaign preferred option creates a 'dependant Scotland' as the rest of the UK will need to approve our budget and that to be truly independent the best plan B is for our own Scottish currency. I suspect the Yes campaign know that long term to be truly independent they will need a Scottish currency, but realise that they can't win the vote on this basis. For a reasoned and balanced view this is a good place to start. http://www.davidhumeinstitute.com/images/stories/Directors_Blogs/DHI_blog_11_August_2014.pdf

The debate though now seems to have moved onto the aspirational grounds of hoping for a better future:
  1. Of building a fairer and more just Scotland (sometimes expressed as getting rid of Westminster, by implication less fair and just.)
  2. I want to "have a true democracy" where my vote counts
  3. Where the NHS is safe.
All of the above points have far more resonance with people at the moment when we have a Tory Prime Minister, running an unpopular collation government which is making significant cuts to spending.

My view is that this debate and vote should transcend who is in Government as it is about the long-term future of our country and to polarise it around today's government is too short sighted and does a huge disservice to Scotland.

Political party fortunes wax and wane. I've seen huge victories for the Conservatives under Thatcher and then for Labour under Blair. The unrealistic hope and excitement in the country when both first took power and the belief from people across the UK that this change was needed and right was only matched by the disillusion that later kicked in. Obama had the same issue of expectation when he first became President.

Both Thatcher and Blair are of course now very divisive figures. As a voting public, we share a responsibility for this, we allowed them to create vastly over inflated expectations and/or we invested our hopes in them and then found it all wasn't so simple. My point is that at the time they made the country believe that a better future existed under them, but as the reality unfolded it didn't turn out the way we had hoped and we were able to change our minds.

There is no changing our mind if we vote Yes, so we need to be absolutely convinced by the argument for change. Is there more than hope to the aspiration for change?

Building a fairer and more just Scotland

Who doesn't want that? The real questions is about how to achieve it? A number of things bother me about the Yes campaign on this. Firstly, there seems to me to be a low level type of nationalism in this statement that I find very uncomfortable. I hear, "we are better than others and have a more natural tendency to fairness and justice than the rest of the UK".  Any statement that implies national superiority in a trait is concerning and the evidence that there is change in the fairness of people as you cross the border, plain nonsense.

Second, if we really want justice and fairness, why just for Scotland? Why not for the rest of the UK? Scotland's Labour Party played a part in bringing about the NHS and the welfare state, but it did so by working with others who had the same vision across the UK. If we are so worried about equality in the UK of the future, is the best we can do to walk away from the people of the North of England or Wales who have just as much history and stake in the NHS and welfare state?

Surely, if you really want justice and fairness then we need to fight for it in the UK and the use the UK's voice in the world to influence better outcomes.

To my mind, to walk away and say we're better and want to do this on our own, is a smaller mindset and not one truly fixed on creating a fairer society.

Lastly, a fairer more just society needs a thriving economy to pay for it and to have this we need to understand the currency issue.

But we'll get the Government we vote for..."a true democracy"

"Aye right, of course you will." The implication is that a) we don't have a true democracy at the moment and b) we will ALL get the government we vote for.

To say we don't have a democracy at the moment is of course ludicrous. One of the great things is about this democracy is that it allows us to have a referendum vote.

The reality of our democratic system is that the majority of the people don't get the government they vote for.  At the last election more people in Scotland didn't vote SNP than did, but they won more seats than all the others and so rightly form the Government.

So along with the majority of people in Scotland I can't say I got the government I voted for, but I can say we have democracy.

All we change if we vote Yes is the scale of the population. Will it feel any better for the majority of people in Scotland to know they didn't vote for a government in Edinburgh rather than London?  The only benefit I can see is that we won't have Westminster to blame, only Holyrood and this may focus us on finding more solutions to issues.

Where the NHS is safe

If you've stayed with me so far then you'll guess my response to this is that this is really a more tangible version of the first point on fairness.  It's a clever touchstone for the Yes campaign, but one that should be ignored as an argument for voting yes. We already run the NHS in Scotland and the debate is about future control of overall budget and therefore takes you back around to the economy and currency issues.

Hope is not a strategy

One of my first lessons in business came from someone who told me that "hope is not a strategy" and then pushed me to refine a goal and create a plan. The hope I'm hearing for a Yes vote gives me no sense of a real reason to take such a huge risk with economy, jobs and future wellbeing. If you still plan to vote Yes and have some doubts, please be really sure that you're going to get what you hope for.

2 comments:

  1. Quite a few things I disagree with.

    On currency. Firstly, many economists agree as did the Scottish government commission on currency that a currency union would be the best interest of both countries. It would make things easier for transitioning but it would also mean we would pay our share of the UK debt, something we would not be obliged to do if we were not allowed a currency union (though i'm sure something the good people of this country would do). Let's not forget, Alex Salmond is himself an experienced economist. Why would the UK government tell us we couldn't have one? Hmmm, perhaps because the single question of currency makes so many people question independence? The fear of currency has left so many people with such huge doubts?

    Even if we make our own currency and have some instability for a while, the whole World economy is unstable. Remind yourself, the economy does what the people with the most money want it to do. It cannot be predicted and those who say they have predicted it should be distrusted.

    You need to ask yourself, is currency more important than being able to run our own country. No.

    Justice and Fairness. Yes we do want that for the whole of the UK but if you seriously think we can crack into corrupt, elitist and unfair world of Westminster anytime soon, you're deluded. That is what stands in our way. We have a government that is made up for the most part by privately educated millionaires who live in London and really don't care about Scotland in any way. The House of Lords, who are all unelected (and again, mostly privately-educated millionaires) cost us 110 million pounds per year. First, the House of Lords is the largest parliamentary chamber in any democracy. It is surpassed in size only by China’s National People’s Congress (2987 members), and membership of the Lords is growing steadily. Does that sound like democracy?

    If everyone in Scotland was to vote for the green party at the next general election, what would that do to UK politics.... pretty much nothing. You would get a few more seats in Westminster that were green but it wouldn't be a majority and it would certainly not mean a Green Prime Minister.

    If the last council elections in England are anything to go by, it will be a UKIP/Tory coalition. Which I think sounds vile. We need to stop being subjected to governments we didn't vote for. You may say it shouldn't matter who is in power, but when we are having legislation such as the bedroom tax and privatisation of the Royal Mail forced on us, there is a big problem. (Remembering also that Scottish MPs voted against both these things and it made no difference) Does that sound like democracy?

    There is also no implication by anyone that we ALL get the government we vote for. I don't think anyone is implying that. I've also never heard anyone tell people they are better than England. I have heard the view that we care more about others up here, which to be honest I think is true and is reflected in polls about where we should put our money (e.g. education, healthcare).

    The difference we get with Independence is that WE get to decide the government. We can literally start all over again (like Iceland did, if you heard about the pots and pans revolution, go look it up). We can start from scratch, make up a constitution and stick to that.

    Things are getting worse. Wealth inequality is growing, poverty is growing and corruption is growing in Westminster.

    "I’m voting Yes in the referendum, because when nothing is for certain I think the possibility of better is better than the fear of worse."

    You are never going to get change for the better with choosing the status quo. Ever.

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    1. Thanks Ollyorin for taking the time to respond. We are obviously not going to agree, so I won't respond to all your points, just one:
      The main point on the currency that I've made in previous blog and is recognised in the work of the David Hume institute (follow the links from the blog) is not whether we can or can't have currency union it's that a currency union with the UK makes us 'dependant' not 'independent'. In a currency union the largest part of the union dictate the budget and taxation decisions. (See German control over the Euro) Why on earth would we want that? You are voting to give away freedom and power in a currency union!

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